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May 20 Topic: Plagia-Rock! Let's take a peek at music plagiarism, parodies, and piracy.

mu·sic (myū'zĭk) n. The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre. Vocal or instrumental sounds possessing a degree of melody, harmony, or rhythm.

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Plagia-Rock! Let's learn a bit more about copyright laws and intellectual property rights management. Parodies, plagiarism, and lifting from other songs. Music as property. Whew* okey 'to.

Edwin Sallan is one of the essayists of "Tikman ang Langit," the book on the Eraserheads. A former Jingle magazine writer, he says that there really should be no stress on parodies or covering music for as long as one acknowledges the source or the creator of the piece or the melody. After all plagiarism is really more about the 'claiming an idea, line, melodic form' as ones own creation. Ah hah. Taking the credit for what is not really yours is the big deal here.

Pinikpikan's frontwoman, Carol Bello expresses her take on originality. She is delighted when people sometimes sound like them because she is an advocate of promoting indigenous music and rhythms. However, she insists that ideas are abound and infinite. One just has to go out of comfort zones and explore the world more to get richer ideas. She also stresses that we are so lucky that we live in South East Asia where rhythm and music are so closely interwoven with our culture. We should dig in deeper into our indigenous bin of inspiration instead of always looking to the West for music pegs. Tama! She beams local genius and we all agree with her completely. (shown is Lourd de Veyra saying "Oy lagot kayong mga nagpapahamak kay Carol." hehe loko lang, pointer finger up usually means "...point well taken." or "I think I know what you're talking about." he he he)


The pretty Ms. Debbie Gaite of Filscap explains the hows and whys of music copyrighting. She also stresses that Filscap is really about protecting the artist, they safeguard the artist from abusive users of their creations. Plagiarism included! Filscap is a non-stock non-profit group of composers, authors and publishers. They represent the rights of both foreign and local composers, lyric writers and publishers. She thinks we are not out of ideas, the world is large and looming. Explore. Work! Think! Research!
Mike Wage is an OPM fan. He is the project director of Globe's Kantabataan contest. He brought up an interesting point when he asked, who gets paid when a song quotes from the Bible? (sabi ko si God) He also raised the fact that perhaps because it helps in the evangelization, open source ang Bible of ideas. Hmmm. Mike is very encouraging to students. He urges them to keep seeking out their minds and experiences to create music. He also thinks that maybe unoriginality is a symptom of laziness. So work on your music! Search, discover, explore, create. Join their contest. etc etc. (and while Mike waxes profound, all Gang is thinking is, "GLOBE gimme free load on a regular basis, please.")
Sir Francis Brew of the Dawn and NU107 joins in the conversation. He says musicians are trapped sometimes between creating what is in the 'wave' of commercial success and what is truly what they want to say. As a career, sometimes artists adjust to what will be commercially viable. Aaah, the age-old war between commercial and critical success ensues. But he says, musicians don't run out of ideas, record companies do. Hah. Miggy Chavez lead singer of Chicosci and Toti Dalmacion of Terno Recordings both join us on a phone patch. Miggy says we should stop finger pointing on who sounds like who in the biz, just enjoy the music or if you don't, then shut up. (my words, not his. Summary yan) Toti on the other hand explains that originality is important though he understands that in this day and age it is a challenge not to sound like a shade of someone else, he values quality of music. Commercial and critical acclaim should not be mutually exclusive, kaya naman daw pareho.

Edwin, Lourd and Debbie continue the conversation outside. Everyone agreeing to come back for a continuation of this episode. We haven't even discussed the intricacies of downloading, uploading music, shareware, piracy, lyrics lifted, etc etc. There's a world out there of things we need to know about this thing we all adore called mee-yoo-zik.


PS: Rico Blanco of Rivermaya called in and said that OPM is doing really well. Don't ride the bandwagon of pulling everyone down just because. We cannot start from a standpoint of 'gaya gaya talaga ang Pinoy' dahil hindi lahat gano'n! Dapat i-appreciate natin ang nagaganap sa music scene and carry on.
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Yung mga pangkampanya na kanta, madaming kapareho ng mga OPM ngayon, pwede ba yon??! Maski mga commercials sa TV may kaparehas ng kanta ng mga banda ngayon, bayad ba yon o pwede lang gumamit basta may bahagyang pagkakaiba sa kanta?

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ano ang Filscap? lagi ko nababasa ang membership pero ano ang ginagawa ng Filscap? Government ba sila??

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Teknik rin siguro yung mang gaya ng kanta MINSAN basta wag lng garapalan. Gumawa naman kayo nang sarili nyong kanta di ba mas maganda kung yung kanta nyo original....

tsehqui said...

hindi rin naman maiiwasan yang mapagbintanga'ng nag-pplagiarize eh.


sa sobrang dami ba naman ng magagaling na musicians ngayon, hindi talaga maiiwasang ma-copy (unintionally) ang melody o kung ano man ng ibang musicians. INEVITABLE kumbaga.

pero, iba nga ang plagiarism. ung intentional na.


i'm bothered...when one downloads from the internet a music file of an artist, let's say wala pang album out ung artist na un, you ask permission from that artist if you can download it, but you get no answer, so you decide to save it sa mp3 player mo nalang, is that considered as PLAGIARISM? Stealing perhaps? and if you actually spread that artist's work/s (not claiming na it's yours. YOU GIVE FULL CREDIT TO THAT ARTIST), do you think it's okay/suggested na one do/does this? para makilala ung artist na yun?



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btw, sorry, hindi na po ako masyadong nakaka-abot sa RockEd Radio..goodness, 3 topics na ang na-miss ko.. :((

pansinin, wala akong comment/s sa 3 topics na un. :|


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hello na nga rin pala sa mga guests nyo. ^^


(lalo na kay MAYOR MIGGY..hehe, hindi nya ata ako naaalala. :| ohwell. ^^)


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jan geum said...

what about parodies?? tipong super in-your-face na kinuha yung melody at pinalitan lamang yung lyrics, is that plagiarism?? kung magpapaalam ka man, magkano ang rate for using your melody??

jan geum said...

what is the most recent case of plagiarism in the history of pinoy music that has been punished/resolved?? how??

Anonymous said...

ano ba ang masama sa panggagaya? sorry ha, anti intellectual property kase ako e.

alphecca said...

wow

imagine saying the copyright and other stuff while singing songs.

about the inevitibility sa pagcopya ng tono ng isang kanta, and the common letters of the chord chart, and the high standards of originality..

what are the things one should do to prevent music plagiarism?

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Ang mga Pinoy?
oo manggagaya tayo dahil nahihirapan tayong magisip ng orihinal na mga ideya sa bansang ito dahil sa sobrang gulo.
Konektado ang politiko sa musika ng bansa natin. obyus?

--> yehey! TOTI! :D

ginger taberna said...

Sir Toti: naiinis ba kayo kapag ginagaya ang mga artists ng terno? o kaya pag cino-cover ng ibang banda ang mga kanta ng terno? ano ang criteria ninyo para masama sa terno? sobrang mapili daw kayo sa artists, totoo ba yon?

criselle said...

Ano ang diperensya ng terno records sa ibang record labels...baket parang hindi ko pa nakikita sa TV pero nadidinig dinig ko lang sa gimikan? Chicosci!!! MAYOOR MIGGGYYY!! pirated na ba kayO? wala kayong kakasuhan?? meron sa amin ng pirated cd ninyo ser!!

ching said...

in a songwriting class that my fre\iends went to, they were taught to pick a "ghost" song, for them to be able to make a new one. it's like a pttern that you'll use. marami na namang magkakaparehong kanta talaga, nauubusan na tayo siguro ng ideas. :)

Pokas said...

Magandang gabi sa lahat ng nakikinig sa inyo rin mam gang at ser lud.
siguro hindi naman lahat ng gumaya eh yun talaga ang pakay, siguro yung iba sa sobrang pag iidolo nila sa mga artist na impluwensyahan na sila. Saka teknik rin talaga yung plag.

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Nakalimutan ko pala may tanung kasi ako labas ng topic. My t-shirt ba ang rocked? kung meron san ako makakabili? ty

tsehqui said...

omg, naiinis ako nung napanuod ko sa news ung nangyari kay ms. Karol ng Pinikpikan. HINDI ATA TAMA UN! >:|



-cheky

tsehqui said...

talaga? ung kay Sir. Freddie Aguilar? ung case nya? sorry, pero it kind of sounds stupid. :| as in! ohwell.





-cheky

tsehqui said...

aba, ang haba ng RockEd radio ngaun ahhh. :))




-cheky

tsehqui said...

Pokas,


alam ko po meron po sa RockEd events ng shirts. ^^


or sa BRANDED. ^^ nakalagay naman po ata sa RockEdPhilippines.com eh. ^^



-cheky

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